Marty Friedman guitar lesson (scales)
learningguitardvds.com http Marty explaining about some scale he “made up” and how to practice them, part by part. This clip was taken from Marty Friedman’s “Melodic Control” video.
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I started the Jamorama tutorials last week on TOTALGUITAR (dot) INFO , and I cannot believe how my guitar playing has come on since then.
it sounds like middle eastern music.
You need to know what has already been done so that you can recognise what is new.
If you just want to be boring and predictable, you don’t need scales.
@NoosesGive Good… go do the dishes
He doesn’t care about how, he is just getting from point a to point b. its amazing.
I like Marty, he no got none school larnin’. he Jus whiddles around ’till he finds something he lieks.
okay dude, have you even really listened to Buckethead? He is one of the best guitarist in the world, no exaggeration. Listen to 1 of the 4 albums he put out LAST year. Or the one he put out this year, or the other 24 albums he has out.
Controlll *spin*
Badass hair
LOL bucket head? Are you seriously sying that tools name without laughing? the guy or whatever gender it is wears a mask with a KFC bucket on his head!!!. my god i just can not take that person serious.
“Buckethead isn’t? even in the same arena as Holdsworth, Vai or Satch!”
Waht do you mean by that?
im not giving you a spelling lesson. You were using the wrong word…. you cant have a logical debate because you dont know what you’re saying. its kind of funny to be honest. Particularly the part about thinking this guy is a virtuoso, and the part about you having better things to do.
Great I’m getting a spelling lesson from a guy who doesn’t know to start every sentence with capitalization or that the word I is a proper noun and therefore always capitalized!
Why do you keep bringing new shit into the conversation?
I’m standing pat. You’re questing the methods of a guy who’s considered by many as virtuoso and then changing the subject every time one of your “points” is trumped… I’ve got better things to do, so I’m done with you!!!
Buckethead isn’t even in the same arena as Holdsworth, Vai or Satch!
I would compare Eddie to Tchaikovsky… Nether were overly concerned with
technicality and both changed everything people thought they knew about their respected instruments!!!
im still not sure what “making his own scales” means. But holdsworth is a wonderful guitar player.
Bucket would most likely be Beethoven
moot, the word is moot. secondly, the chromatic scale (every sequential tone on standard instruments) is the only 12 tone scale. You dont understand basic scale theory, i wouldnt expect you to understand scale lengths and fret placement.
So were does Buckethead and Eddie Van Halen fit into that “Bach and Motzart” thing?
listen kid, he’s playing a freakin D harmonic minor starting on Bb. Im not sure why you would would be debating that
@darthvaderyoda LOL, I remember reading a readers question in the Q&A section of some guitar magazine, about ten years ago. The question was what Scale does Holdsworth typically play in? There answer was simply “ALL OF THEM” typed in all upper case!
Steve Vai is the Mozart of our times. Satch is the Bach and Allan Holdsworth is all of them combined… The dudes just on a different level then all of us!
@bootryfly His point is don’t put all your focus on learning scales… He’s right!
If you think he’s playing in proper “harmonic minor” then we need to end this debate as you need to get thee to a reputable guitar teacher!
@bootryfly You didn’t bring up your belief that he didn’t make up the scale in your previous posts. You added it to your argument in the hopes that it would deflect attention from you’re original point being mute!
Of course the “xavian scale is totally separate from our discussion” ‘cos it doesn’t support yours. But I assume because it’s not a standard 12 note scale
then it’s not a ‘real scale’… Right?
But that just supports Friedmans
argument!!!
What about allan Holdsworth? he makes his own scales and he has like 20,000 of them
“a lot of guy get caught up with the fact that they think they gotta learn these certain scales and be able to play them correctly….” first line of the video. This is the single most counterproductive piece of shit advice anyone could be given, other than telling someone to take a bath with a live amp. Yeah… who would want to learn scales and play them correctly… this guy is a fucking genius. The fucking guy says he invented the harmonic minor scale.. :32 of the video.
are you joking? I told you my point in the first sentence! Read much? Im pretty sure at this point you dont know what a scale actually is. Do you really want a lesson on the modes of the major scale, diminished, harmonic minor, etc. And how exactly is a person to understand music if there teacher asks them to make it up? Vai has an unreal understanding of theory and his instrument, but the xavian scale is totally seperate from our discussion, and you should know why but dont
“”"”But I assume because it’s not a standard 12 note scale
then it’s not a ‘real scale’… Right?”"”"
WRONG. Your 12-tone scale is derived from low integer ratios - or string divisions which the frets merely “approximate”….. in fact, the scales in 12 are further from “REAL”. So far, that some people have micro-fretted their instruments, or have included perfect intervals. the 12-tone scale approximates the 5th and 3rd, which is why you use power chords. Also 12 tone is suited for a major scale and it’s inversion… thats it….. dissonance will always lead to consonance, and they are inseperable…. Also, playing “evil” music in the tuning for this reason is silly to me. (although i will admit i’ve heard some awesome pissed 12 tone stuff)
Anyways, I make guitars, and I have written about ten books using non 12 tone scales. Just go to http://www.ronsword.com or swordguitars.com and you can see my guitars which I have fretted to 62 frets, or 31-tones per octave and others….like 16-tone… or the “XAVIAN” scale….which actually existed long before Vai, and it seems guitarists don’t recognize that there are many other tunings available…I think because theyre all too caught up in trying to be someone else.
Anyways. These systems use other intervals, besides a 5th or 3rd, harmonically, like a 7th, or 9th, or 12th even….Have you even heard of a perfect twelfth? It’s almost as if guitarists and musicians these days have limited themselves and they are okay with their own limitations and harmonic constraints….which i find completely rediculous…
Freidman employs bends and playing which approximates enharmonic genera…and others, like an ancient enharmonic phrygian tetrachord consisting of a “diesis” interval, a chromatic interval, and a fourth. :)
The enharmonic genera is something probably not even in your vocabulary…It is another class of intervals seperate from chromatic and diatonic…. It was described by ancients as the most solemn genera of all….. Basically the sweetness you hear in the bends is the enharmonic genera, which is possible in tunings like 31-tone. When I say enharmonic, I dont mean 12-tone theory enharmonic, I mean, smaller than a chromatic tone.
Ivor darreg, a theorist and largely unknown author writes about intonational systems other than 12, why theyre important etc…..
I also make guitars without octaves, like the Bohlen Pierce scale which I recently gave a lecture for and concert at Berklee college of music and northeastern conservatory. The guitar i expo’d had 9 strings and low integer ratios which allow for better consonance in chords with “higher” harmonies than those found in 12-tone guitar, like 3:5:7:9 chord from the harmonic overtone series for example - perfectly in tune..
Anyways….Check out my sites and my books. If youre interested in Steve vai’s 16-tone stuff you should check out mine, I actually use the system harmonically and I have an entire book for the theory of the tuning.